Why Does Paul Boast In His Suffering? 2 Corinthians 11: 16-21

It seems strange for Paul to deny the need to boast then go ahead and boast about his superior qualifications. But other than his heritage as a Jewish leader, everything he boasts in is the sort of thing that would have been dishonoring to a Greco-Roman philosopher. If you were a philosopher who was poor or was regularly attacked by people for his message, then you were not a very good philosopher!

CrowingRoosterTo be thought a “fool” (ἄφρων) in this case refers to someone who lacks prudence or good judgment (BDAG).  In the LXX, the word translates a wide variety of Hebrew words for foolish, insolent, naïve, stupid or even “young.” In the Testament of Job 26.6 uses the Greek word for a “senseless woman.” In a culture dominated by honor and shame, to be considered a fool is something to be avoided.

Paul says he is not a fool, but if the opponents want to boast in their achievements, he will boast in his folly! Think of this as a “fight fire with fire” strategy, but with a twist. Rather than boast in his achievements (as the opponents may be), Paul will boast in things considered by both Greco-Roman and Jewish culture as indications of failure. In verse 21, Paul recognizes all he will boast about is not honorable, but a shame. Paul could present a list of achievements which would put the opponents in their proper place, but is that really necessary, given his relationship with the church at Corinth?

  • Paul’s opponents in Corinth appear to be taking advantage of the Church, accepting privileges expected by their status as “apostles.” Paul says the church will “gladly bear with fools” like the opponents, because they think they are wise. The church is willing to put up with the opponents and their demands because they consider it a kind of honor these teachers are in their congregation.
  • The opponents “make slaves” of the church. This may refer to the opponents insisting on being served as any elite teacher might expect in either a Greco-Roman or Jewish context. Likewise, the word “devours” (κατεσθίω) can refer to literal eating, but probably has the sense of exploiting the church for personal gain. In Psalm 13:4 the word is used for enemies eating up the bread of God’s people.
  • The opponents take advantage of the church by “putting on airs.” This single Greek word (ἐπαίρω) has the sense presumption and arrogance, doing things to exalt oneself over others (1 Clem 39:1, for example, couples this self-exaltation with “Senseless and stupid and foolish and ignorant men jeer and mock at us.”
  • How literal is “strikes you in the face”? In Acts 23:1-3 Paul himself is struck in the face when he spoke to the Sanhedrin. Physical punishment was something used by teachers to correct their students, so it is possible Paul means Corinthians believers are willing to put themselves in the position of a young student learning from a cranky tutor!

Paul’s model for ministry is not at all similar to a Greek philosopher or a Jewish Rabbi or Scribe. Paul’s model is only Jesus, and Jesus crucified! As he has said in the previous chapter and in Phil 2, Jesus himself is the ultimate model for Christian service since he did not insist on using his status of “equality with God,” but rather he set that status aside in order to serve others.

This is challenging since most Americans see achievement and advancement as an honor to be pursued tenaciously. We are celebrating graduates this time of year. Most of us would expect every teen to graduate from high school and go on to college, and it is not at all unusual to hear someone graduated with honors, high honors, magna cum laude, Phi Beta Kappa, etc. Pastors are supposed to move up from youth pastor to “real pastor,” or from small “starter churches” to larger churches with more prestige. College professors are supposed to pad out their resumes with publications and honors and move up the academic food chain.

But is this pursuit of honor “biblical”? We do not often hear of top-notch pastors of larger churches with national followings boasting in their suffering for Jesus. In fact, do they suffer much?

Paul rejects any sort of rating system for apostles. He is not interested in comparing his resume with the opponents in Corinth, nor is he going to offer the Corinthian church an update on his personal achievements to prove he is the “better apostle” and they ought to listen to him and not the opponents. Rather, he compares his suffering to that of his Lord, Jesus Christ.

26 thoughts on “Why Does Paul Boast In His Suffering? 2 Corinthians 11: 16-21

  1. “It seems strange for Paul to deny the need to boast then go ahead and boast about his superior qualifications.”

    It IS strange. Paul was wrong to do this.
    But, if you approach Paul’s writings with the “traditional” but misguided attitude that “It’s the Word of God because Paul said so, therefore if Paul said it then it must be true”…. it is problematic.
    Rather than stopping to think clearly and ask “was this right?”, we’ve been trained to jump to the conclusion and ask “WHY was it right?”

    Because, underneath, subconsciously, we’ve been programmed to believe that it’s a sin to ever question anything Paul wrote (or even said or did, recorded by Luke in Acts.) We’ve been trained to sing the rapture of Boss Paul the Pharisee –
    Paul says:
    “My sins are all theoretical….
    If I testify about myself it must be true…..
    If I did something it must be right…..”
    and Paul must be right because…. Paul said so.
    He’s the only man in all history whose testimony doesn’t need two or three witnesses to back him up…. right?

    • “It IS strange. Paul was wrong to do this.” Maybe not, since if you read the text in 2 Cor, his superior qualifications are counter-cultural, not the things you boast it! He is superior as a servant of Christ because he has suffered, as opposed to the opponents who would consider suffering a sign of judgment.

      • There is a huge section of American Evangelicalism, former hippies who are now in their 60’s and 70’s, who promote what we might call “Bad Boy Pride,” based on the bad example set by Paul the Pharisee, rather than the humble example of Jesus. They LOVE to speak to big crowds of strangers in stadiums or stadium-like churches, and boast and brag about “O what bad boy I was 40 years ago.”

        Sin sells, and they love to remind you of these gory details of their sinful life before they were converted, which God knows about but chooses not to accuse us with. Yet, no one can think of anything specifically they have done wrong for the last 10 years as a follower of Jesus. They think like Paul and act like Paul and talk like Paul, and see sin the way Paul did – which is the opposite of how Jesus (and God the Father) see sin.

        Paul reminded people of their pre-conversion sins, but Paul was blind to his own current sins as a follower of Jesus. Yet, Jesus sees sins the opposite way. Jesus NEVER reminded anyone of specific pre-conversion sins- (maybe I missed something, but I don’t think so. If you think I’m wrong quote me chapter and verse. The woman at the well was not a follower of Jesus when He first met her. And Jesus didn’t specifically mention adultery to the woman caught in that – “go and sin no more” is not bringing up her specific pre-conversion sin.)

        But God DOES see the sins of followers of Jesus AFTER we are converted, and He brings it up and rebukes us for them. (See Revelation 2-3)

        Followers of Paal will say something like “I’m not under the Law I’m under Grace, so God doesn’t see my sins..” To them I say, Wake Up! Read Revelation chapters 1-3.God is God, and our ways are in full view of Him.

  2. Jesus commended the Church in Ephesus for having a rating system for Apostles, because they “tested those who claim to be apostles but are not, and have found them false.” [Revelation 2:2]
    Those are the “Red Letters”.

      • We agree – “Jesus gets to “rank” anyone he wants.”
        And in Revelation 2;2, Jesus is ranking Paul as someone who falsely claimed to be an apostle. Although Jesus doesn’t give Paul’s name, if you look at the entire text of our New Testament, it is fairly evident that Jesus’ words here are directed primarily against Paul – although not exclusively against Paul.

        (By the way, the tradition of dating Revelation as the very last of the books, around 90 AD, came later- the original church did not believe that, but it appears followers of Paul pushed this new tradition to cover for Paul, so people would miss that Revelation 2:2 is primarily against Paul.)

        Paul’s longest recorded ministry was also in Ephesus – not “3 years night and day with tears” as Paul boastfully claimed, but rather 3 months in the Synagogue and 2 years in his own school, teaching many people, as Luke recorded accurately in Acts. No one else in the New Testament outside the 12 claimed to be an Apostle except Paul, and obviously Paul taught many people in Ephesus that he was an Apostle. Paul was wrong about that, and Jesus commended people for testing Paul and finding him false in his claim to be an apostle.

        I think Jesus gets to define what an Apostle is, and the Apostles Jesus walked with for 3 1/2 years knew what a true Apostle is better than Paul did. Paul wasn’t wrong about everything – but he was wrong about quite a lot. No one besides Paul in the pages of the Bible ever said that Paul was appointed an apostle- it’s an uncomfortable fact about the text.

        Many “religions” have their one “special person” who can never be examined or questioned and is somehow “above the law” because they make the law, so the don’t need a second witness. Muslims have Muhammad, Mormons have Joseph Smith, Catholics have “Mary”…. and most Evangelicals have Paul the self-appointed Apostle.

  3. As you said, “Paul rejects any sort of rating system for apostles”. I think that this is something that we should apply to our lives and our churches today, as well. Too often, we place teachers and pastors in a sort of hierarchy, based off of many factors – size of the church, how much money the person makes, and even how public or well known they are. We may think of those who are the pastors of huge mega churches, who stream all of their messages online, and how have written dozens of books, as those who are at the top of this hierarchy. We may believe that these people are the ones who have the “real insight”, and we may believe that they have much better insight on the word than those who are pastors of small, local churches. However, we need to be careful not to do this. Instead of focusing on the pastors or other individual involved in the church, we need to be focused on Jesus. We should be evaluating each message we hear, and instead of just going along with it and accepting their message as truth, we need to make sure that the message aligns with the word of God. It is important that we have our own understanding of the word of God, and that we don’t just blindly follow the teachings of mega-pastors, because this is where people begin to stray from the truth of God’s word.

  4. It is interesting how Paul’s boasts are exactly opposite to what these “super-apostles” are doing. Rather than exerting his authority to strike others, Paul has been beaten many times (2 Cor. 11:24-25). Rather than accepting gifts for his own personal gain from the church, Paul made sure not to take money from any of them (verse 9). Instead of using his position to exalt himself above the other believers, Paul is instead trying to humble himself and exalt the Corinthian believers (verse 7). Indeed, Paul does not share the same methods as those who are supposedly more impressive.

    In our culture today, I think that there is a risk of over-boasting about suffering for Christ that could not really have occurred in the honor crazed Roman society the same way. But regardless of the method, being consumed by the gain of honor, advancement, and prestige is detrimental to any Christian ministry. When I think about dealing with this issue the correct way, my first thought goes to the youth pastor at my church. Whereas a youth pastor position can be seen as a stepping stone to attain a “higher” pastoral position, the youth pastor at my church has been working in this position for around 20 years now with no desire to change. He definitely has the qualifications to move up to a “higher” pastoral position, which could easily give him more compensation and prestige. However, he believes that he has found the place where God wants him and content to serve there.

  5. I found it interesting that Paul does a one-up to the church Corinth, they show how blessed they are and Paul comes back with “How much have you suffered?”. This could be similar, maybe not, to how you get a job? Or how qualified you are? The church of Corinth shows Paul they have all of the knowledge and education to be called an apostle, but Paul essentially asks them; how much experience/suffering have you had? Even though they may have the knowledge or education to be proud of, Paul shows them all of the suffering that he had endured and that this is what acting out your faith or knowledge or teachings looks like. I think the analogy you made in the blog post, saying “…so it is possible Paul means Corinthian believers are willing to put themselves in the position of a young student learning from a cranky tutor!” fits so well with 2 Corinthians 11:1-3. Paul corrects them along with giving them advice. For 2 Corinthians 11:16-21 has a weird feeling or tension. Paul says in 16, “… then tolerate me just as you would a fool, so that I may do a little boasting”. Paul knows what he’s doing, the church of Corinth is prideful and Paul doesn’t want to straight up tell them they are without encouraging them. He understands their pride and instead of showing them his credentials, which he is very well qualified to be called an apostle, but shows them his suffering and experience. It seems like he shows them his sufferings in Christ so that they see that if you don’t have understanding, and wisdom you wouldn’t be able to become the “cranky tutor” if the original post terms.

  6. I think it is important to note in this case, that honor and achievement was highly sought after in the Corinthian culture. The people of Corinth had a strong sense of pride and honor and this was a large impediment Paul was battling with, within the Corinthian church. I believe that Paul’s “humble boasting” about the suffering he has endured for Christ, was to help shift the vision of the Corinthians off of their own honor, and onto honoring and helping others in Christ name, no matter what the cost. In fact Paul might be trying to show them, that they may not feel honorable at all when serving Christ, because it can be a painful and degrading process, trying to spread the gospel and live according to God’s desires. Paul wanted to show the Corinthians what it truly meant to be a Christian in the worst of circumstances, its not about honor or achievement, its about giving until you are bruised and broken, it is about the sacrifice you are willing to make for your Lord and Savior. The only honor you should seek is from the Lord himself, and you might have to suffer to get there.

  7. No matter how we are feeling we meant to praise God. As a body of Christ we have a tendency to only praise God when He answers our prayers. This is not how our relationship with God should work. If we are going through hardship we need to praise God because we know that He already went before us and won the battle. When a situation is starting to lose control we need praise God, because we know He is the only one who can make things right. As we get our prayer(s) answered, then we need to praise Him even more for keeping His promise until the very end. I know for a fact this is why Paul continues to boast about God even during His suffering. That means Paul had so much faith that God would turn his situation around as He has done before. God has never failed us before and this is something that will remain true even when I am gone and long after that too. Even before the foundations of this planet were laid God already had a plan and future for each of His creation. Knowing this in return should put our minds at ease and strengthen our faith even more. We serve a powerful king that loves His people unconditionally and without any boundaries. This love that He has for us should be more than enough to give us the sense of purpose we need to wake up every day. Even when times are rough to know that God is on our side is definitely already a win we can be boasting about at all times.

  8. The city of Corinth was dominated by a personal quest for honor. I believe that it is fair to say that today’s society mirrors this personal quest for honor. The fact that Paul is willing to boast in his suffering, rather than boast in his apostleship, his knowledge, his ministry experiences, etc. is very encouraging for Christians, including myself. It is important to understand how big of a figure Paul is. He is an Apostle, and he writes many letters/works in the Word of God. Clearly, Paul is a huge figure during Bible times. The fact that he is not worried about his own status, reputation, or personal honor. I believe that offers a model for other Christians to try and live by. Paul is setting an example for Christians to boast in their suffering that they have experienced, rather than their wealth, status, education, achievements, etc.

    Personally, I think about how I can connect this model to my own life. As a basketball player/athlete, everything is competitive in the sports area of my life. I want to be the best player I can be for my team but also for my own personal goals. I work hard every single day to be the best player I can be. Am I doing this for the right reasons? Am I doing this so that I can boast about my achievements and my team’s achievements later on in life, or am I doing this to honor God with the abilities that he blessed me with and to be a light for my teammates, opponents, fans, etc.? This is food for thought that I think about often, as basketball is very important to me and my life.

    In order to answer the question about whether or not the quest for honor is biblical, I tend to side on the side of “No.” Jesus Christ is a model of unselfishness in the Bible. Pursuit of honor is surrounded by a selfish nature, so that is why I tend to side with the “No” side of this debate/discussion. Unselfishness is preached throughout scripture (Philippians 2:4). Therefore, I think that a strong pursuit of honor is not biblical. That being said, I do think it is human nature. This culture predominated Corinth and society today. Social media is an excellent example of people using this media as an avenue to boast and seek honor over their peers and neighbors.

    Paul sets up an excellent example of how Christians should boast in Christ, not themselves and their own achievements. Longenecker and Still (2014) write: “Paul has plenty to boast about, he says, but his is a boast in the things that God has been doing through him (p. 153).

  9. Something I think that believers tend to forget that God is with us all the time (Deut 31:6, Josh 1:9, Ps 23:4, Matt 28:20b). God is our comfort, in that he is with us wherever we go (Ps 23:4), he is our strength, in that he is with us wherever we go (Deut 31:6, Josh 1:9), and he is our guidance, in that he is with us wherever we go (Matt 28:20b). we also have with us now in today’s day and age the Holy Spirit, which I believe comes upon us at the moment of our salvation (1 Cor 3:16). The Holy Spirit takes on several roles, including but not limited to, of helper (John 14:26), wisdom and strength (Isa 11:2), freedom (2 Cor 3:17), and truth (John 16:12-15). There are many other gifts that the Holy Spirit brings to our every day lives, but what is important to remember is that we would be lost with out the Holy Spirit, the Father, and the Son. To this point, we look at 2 Corinthians 11:16-21, where Paul is speaking of boasting in his weakness. In verse 18, Paul writes that many were boasting of the flesh, indicating that they did not have the Spirit inside of them (ESVSB, 2237). By flesh and flesh alone we have little power, and little influence, but with the Spirit we have great power and great influence. This is why in our weakness that the power of God is displayed because God has the ability to use whomever he chooses for the advancement of his Kingdom (TTP, 154). I know from personal experience leaving God out of the picture or not asking for the help of the Holy Spirit has proven to be less effective, but with the Holy Spirit on my side, it has been more effective. To conclude, Paul does an excellent job of not comparing himself to the other apostles, but only compares himself with Jesus (Long). This is how we ought to live, in every aspect of our lives, we should be comparing it to that of Jesus Christ. It will be discouraging at times because we are sinful, and Jesus was, and is, and will always be perfect. What we can do is live a life as closely related to Jesus as we possibly can, and in doing so, we will walk with Christ. I have heard it told to me before that our faith is not a sprint, but it is a marathon, with many twists, turns, ups and downs. We sure can try to sprint to the finish, but very quickly we will get tired out, discouraged, defeated, and down on ourselves. Take your time, be steadfast and faithful in your journey, and above, keep God close to your side.

  10. Blog Post #5
    One very important thing that P.long asks in the end of this Blog post is “ is the pursuit of Honor Biblical”, in other words can one start to have more say when they move farther up the chain when preaching the gospel; or does one gain more achievements when learning more about God. I think that in the society that we live in today we are pretty similar to the people of Corinth, for we are so hung up on our accomplishments and achievements. We all see recognition from others so much that we end up losing sight of why we are fishing for the recognition. Just like the super apostles they are constantly boasting about their achievements and gaining the attention of all the people in Corinth, which kind of set Paul off because they boast for all the wrong reasons. Hence, the reason Paul too starts to boast “ Paul force to resort to self praise, because his apostolic legitimacy was being vociferously challenged by some in Corinth” (TTP 151). However, he boast in all of his failures; and in all of his achievements he gives all glory to God. “But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ’s power may rest on me” (2 Cor. 12:9). Paul refers this verse to how Jesus willingly died for our sins and suffered the weakness on the cross in order to fulfill the achievement of strength and life afterwards for all of mankind; this is why when boasting it is imperative that we do not only boast for ourselves but we boast for others just as Christ did on the cross. Overall, it is important that we do not just listen to pastors with prestige and just go along with what they are saying, rather we need to really listen to the words they are saying and make sure they follow the commands that God has given in efforts to live a life pleasing to Him. We need to be careful when interpreting what others say about scripture and how they perceive it for this is when we tend to go away stray from what really matters; Christ Jesus.

  11. Paul boasts but only because he feels that he has been forced to by the Corinthians. There were people in Corinth that were challenging Paul’s legitimacy as an apostle. The “super-apostles” were likely among them (TTP p.151-152). These “super-apostles” fit the bill for honor in the Corinthian society with their eloquent speech and elaborate scripture interpretation (TTP p. 142). On the contrary, most of what Paul chooses to boast about are his sufferings rather than his achievements, which caused him to look the fool to the Corinthians. Through his boasting he makes the point that Jesus followers must suffer like he did, in service of others. Those experiences of suffering were the best sign of the authenticity of Paul’s apostleship. Paul insisted that God’s “power is made perfect in weakness” (2 Corinthians 12:9). Paul knew that no matter what claims were made about his insufficiency that God would work in him at the times when he was weak. In Christ Paul was made new and he says that anyone who is has been transformed by Christ is a new creation (TTP p. 153). In the end it is Christ who commends the believer so no one should need to commend themselves.

  12. The honor and achievement were something that was sought after in the culture of Corinth. The Corinthian’s were the type of people to be very prideful and honor themselves which is why Paul had a sort of battle with them. For Paul to come into the Corinthian church and humbly boast about his own suffering was something that was not going to sit well within the Corinthian church, but it would help shift the direction of the Corinthian’s away from their own pride and honor and more onto Christ. The shift would be to live more Christ like in terms of finding honor in helping the less fortunate around them in the name of Christ. It seems that Paul was trying to teach them that it can be a long and hard process to do this because you will not get the recognition that you deserve in doing so. To go and spread the Gospel and live according to God is a hard thing to do when you have consistently learned to have pride and honor within yourself and not for God. Paul wanted to teach them a better way to be Christian in a way that you spread the Gospel at all costs even if you are beaten like Paul was during is ministry. Paul boasting was not an issue either because he was trying to conform to the “super apostles” in Corinth. They were the masters of only worrying about their own pride and honor which is why the people of Corinth were the same way, they were learning this from the super apostles. The super apostles were perfect in this society because of their way to communicate scripture and could be interpreted as “Spirit people” (TTP, p. 142). The way they communicated the spirit and their interactions is what led people to follow the super apostles and is something that Paul was challenged to change.

  13. The status of hierarchy with achievements is something that is comparable in Greco-Roman times with Paul to now. “This honor quest was engrained deeply in the Corinthian way of life, stretching back at least as far as the city’s recent founding as a Roman colony” (Longenecker, 110). We see now how achieving more is associated with more blessings, whether that be financially, socially, or personally. An example being as a teacher it is smart to pursue higher education past a bachelors to get a higher pay and more expertise in a subject area. Long asks, “Is this pursuit of honor biblical?” Paul sets the example to boast in suffering. I like Long’s description saying, “Think of this as a “fight fire with fire” strategy, but with a twist. Rather than boast in his achievements (as the opponents may be), Paul will boast in things considered by both Greco-Roman and Jewish culture as indications of failure” (Long, 2019). This reminds me more of the mindset of a teacher especially in math to encourage mistakes. A book I read that my cooperating teaching used talked about good mistakes and how they lead to growth. How we should acknowledge our mistakes and take joy in them because they make us better. Our society is not wired to think like that, and apparently neither was the people of Corinth. This is why Paul points to Jesus and God instead of His own achievements. He acknowledges that he is not who he is without Jesus, and that he does not need to boast about his own doing, but what God has done through him.

  14. The church of Corinth faced little to no hardship due to the fact that many of the members of the church had at least some degree of wealth and influence. Therefore, they were immune to many of the types of suffering the other churches really struggled with. Although they clearly had respect issues with Paul, it is very clear from his writings that he is trying to explain to them that suffering is truly a benefit over living a life protected by luxury and wealth. It speaks so much of the benefit of suffering for Christ over the hinderance of living a comfortable life.
    Paul’s life, even by that point, had been one that had truly been refined by fire, and it was this fire of suffering that created such a strong relationship between him and the Lord. Yet, it seemed that the believers of Corinth struggle with this concept. Even as Paul is calling them to be generous in second Corinthians 8-9 it is very obvious that the churches which are filled with poor and poverty-stricken people are more willing and ready to share with those in need than the rich Corinthians. According to the ESVSB these believers gave to the Lord first, which is something clearly the believers of Corinth were not doing by any margin (2233).
    What does giving have to do with suffering? Trusting God to supply your most basic needs is a true test of faith – one which few believers in the city of Corinth could truly relate to.

  15. Reading through this reminded me of Job’s suffering. Paul boasts in his suffering despite the fact that the common perception of someone in Paul’s position would not have held him in a positive light. Likewise, Job is presumed to be in the wrong because of his suffering. Job’s circumstances really embody the image of a “jar of clay” found in chapter 4. Like Paul, Job also faced judgment from friends. The bulk of the book of Job is the back and forth between Job and his friends on whether or not Job is righteous in the eyes of God. Though this discussion ultimately turns out to be about the total depravity of man in the eyes of God. Paul’s sufferings, on the other hand, lead him to boast in them as pieces of evidence indicating that he himself is living out the kind of Gospel he preaches. Paul’s Gospel is for everyone, it is about the transformative ministry of Jesus, it is about the mystery he reveals in 1 Corinthians 15:51. If there is a treasure in jars of clay, then Paul is the most unassuming clay jar that there ever was. Which Paul says is a good thing, because then the Gospel message truly is within him. There is a great treasure in the jar of clay that is Paul, and that is reason for boasting.

  16. Although it seems counterintuitive to boast about our weaknesses and failures as Christians, it is exactly the thing that we should be doing and that Paul was right in doing. Especially for many western Christians, the influence of society has penetrated the church in which Christians feel the need to follow society in boasting of their achievements and ultimately gaining praise from man. Yet, this kind of mindset and desire is completely contradictory to biblical teachings. For Galatians 1:10 asks are we seeking approval of man or from God. Therefore; by boasting in our failures and weaknesses, we are actually boasting in the Lord because in those moments of failures and weaknesses we recognize that we have no strength or ability to achieve anything on our own and are to be dependable on the Lord solely through the Holy Spirit.

  17. I think that it is so weird that the Corinthian church made Paul of all people have to prove himself to them. Paul might be the most influential apostle out of all of them in terms of spreading the faith to the rest of the world at the time, so why would they make him prove himself. I love how Paul chooses to boast in things that would not have been honoring in the culture that he was preaching to at the time. Paul refuses to boast in anything that is not Christ and only boasts in Christ alone. I do not think that the way Americans view honor is entirely biblical. The American dream is to become wealthy and to achieve your dreams. We think that money and fame is what makes you honorable. Paul however thinks that suffering for Christ is what is honorable and living for him, not this idea of moving up throughout society to become more and more honorable as we go up. Christians in America love to boast about how we suffer or are persecuted, when in reality we don’t suffer at all compared to Christians in other areas of the world. Just because America is no longer a Christian nation does not mean that Christians in America are persecuted or suffering. It is pretty disrespectful in my eyes to the rest of the world where it is literally illegal to be a christian and you can get killed for it by saying that we suffer at all in America.

  18. Paul proves that he is true apostle not because of his looks, eloquent speech, or any other worldly way of impressing people but because of his suffering that he has endured for proclaiming the Gospel 2 Cor 11-12). Paul endures suffering for serving Christ knowing that his suffering makes him weak which through his weakness Paul has learned how to rely on God, so in Paul’s weakness God may be his source of strength. God spewer is shown best while Paul is wekak so by being weak Paul is able to se Gpds power at work in his life through the many the sufferings in has experienced in his weakness.Majority of Christians in the western world do not experience suffering ad persecution the way Paul and the early church did. Paul’s goes in length of how he was beaten both through numerous floggings by Jews and by roman beatings, how he was shipwrecked three times, necked, gone without food, was often sleepless, and in danger from people of all kinds everywhere (2 Cor 11:23-27). and besides this Paul is concerned for spiritual welfare of the churches he has planted and has been ministering to (2 Cor 11:23-33.

  19. Paul’s approach challenges the societal norms of his time and prompts reflection on contemporary values. In a culture that celebrates honor and rejects shame or discomfort, Paul intentionally boasts in what the world deems as folly. His strategic choice to highlight suffering serves as a counter-cultural message, emphasizing the cruciform nature of Christian ministry. Christ calls us all to carry our cross daily. This would be something very radical to hear in Paul’s day, as it is in our time too. In societies where success is often measured by tangible accomplishments and recognition, Paul’s message invites something different. He urges a reevaluation of priorities, questioning whether the pursuit of worldly honor aligns with Christ’s values of humility, service, and sacrificial love.
    In my opinion, this challenge is extremely relevant today, where success is often equated with wealth, power, and societal status. Paul’s model prompts believers to consider whether their pursuit of honor aligns with the transformative power of Christ-like love. The juxtaposition of Paul’s rejection of a rating system for apostles with the contemporary emphasis on resumes, achievements, and advancements highlights the enduring relevance of his message. It calls for a deeper examination of how individuals, especially pastors and leaders, define success in life. Ultimately, Paul’s emphasis on identifying with Christ in suffering challenges us to find our identity and worth in Him, transcending the lofty ambitions of the world. Our identity is an issue that most of us struggle with. It can be hard to reject cultural norms of climbing the success ladder only to suffer for Christ. I believe Philippians 2:1-2 captures it best, “Therefore if you have any encouragement from being united with Christ, if any comfort from his love, if any common sharing in the Spirit, if any tenderness and compassion, then make my joy complete by being like-minded, having the same love, being one in spirit and of one mind” (NIV). With this model, we can truly boast in our suffering while understanding that we are becoming more like Christ every single day.

  20. The pursuit of honor in the American context is often associated with personal success, ambition, and recognition. These pursuits can sometimes lead to self-centeredness and a disregard for the needs of others, which may not align with the Bible’s emphasis on humility, compassion, and serving one’s community. The Bible teaches us to love our neighbors as ourselves and to prioritize the welfare of others over our own personal glory. the Bible encourages us to seek God’s approval rather than human honor. This distinction is vital because the American pursuit of honor can sometimes prioritize worldly success, material wealth, and societal recognition over spiritual values. The Bible, on the other hand, reminds us that we should store up treasures in heaven rather than on earth and that we should seek God’s kingdom over anything else. I do not think that modern pastors suffer much if at all. Most of the more famous pastors live in big houses with luxury cars and things like that, while they have people write their sermons for them and do not really do anything besides speak on Sundays. They for the most part are not persecuted and do not have and suffering from a physical standpoint. We all suffer with our own personal things, but most do not appear to suffer outwardly.

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