Daniel stands before the king declares the wise men of Babylon could not reveal the dream, but the God of Heaven reveals all mysteries (2:27). That Daniel states “there is a God in heaven” who will reveal the mystery is an indication he does not intend to interpret the dream the way the Babylonian wise men would nor will he consult their dream-texts to interpret the dream. He will rely only on the Lord his God.
In his vision Nebuchadnezzar saw a statue of a man made of four metals. Daniel says the statue was startling, an Aramaic word דחל referring to something dreadful. The body sections and metals are fairly straightforward: The head of the statue was made of pure gold; the chest and arms were silver; the belly and thighs were bronze; the legs were iron. The feet of the statue were partly iron and partly of baked clay. This is a terra cotta type of pottery and would weaken the feet considerably.
As Nebuchadnezzar observes the statue it is destroyed by a stone “not cut by human hands” which strikes the feet, the obvious weak point. The stone destroys the whole statue and it becomes like chaff in the wind. This rock becomes a mountain and fills the whole of the earth.
Daniel interprets the head as Nebuchadnezzar and Babylon Empire and says the following three metals refer to kingdoms which will arise after Babylon (2:39-43). The last of these kingdoms will be destroyed by a kingdom of God (2:44-45). The metaphor of a stone which becomes a mountain which fills the whole earth resonates with Isaiah 2:2 (the mountain of God as the highest mountain) and Isaiah 11:9 (the earth will be filled with the knowledge of God).
What are the four kingdoms in Nebuchadnezzar’s vision? The substance of the vision is that there will be a succession of four earthly kingdoms, the last of which will be destroyed by a heavenly kingdom (the rock not cut by human hands). Before comparing the two main competing views, there are several interpretive questions which will shape the interpretation.
First, since Daniel identifies the head of gold as Nebuchadnezzar, the first empire is Babylon. This is non-controversial, although Philip Davies suggested the four metals were the next four kings of Babylon, Nebuchadnezzar, Evil-Merdoch, Neriglassar, and the fractured iron is Labashi-Marduk, Nabonidus, and Belshazzar, and the destruction of the statue is the fall of Nebuchadnezzar’s dynasty (“Daniel Chapter 2” JTS 27 (1976): 392-401).
Second, should Daniel 2 be read in parallel with Daniel’s vision of four beasts in Daniel 7? The parallelism of the book of Daniel seems to imply a conscious pattering between chapters 2 and 7. If so, then the final kingdom may in fact be the Seleucids since the “little horn” is Antiochus IV Epiphanes.
Third, is the second kingdom the Medes and Persians? In Daniel 5:25-28 Daniel reads the handwriting on the wall as stating Babylon will fall to the Medes and Persians. Daniel 6:28 combines Darius the Mede and Cyrus the Persian.
In general, the assumed date of the book of Daniel influence the final kingdom. If Daniel was written in the second century B.C., then the final kingdom as Greece, or the remnants of Alexanders empire, the Seleucids. This brings the prophecy up to the date of the writer and predicts (of it predicts anything) the fall of the Seleucids and God’s judgment on Antiochus IV Epiphanes. For the most part, this progress of kingdoms is vaticina ex eventu, a literary review of history up to the time of the writer designed to appear to be a prophecy.
Often those who argue for the traditional date for the book in the sixth century B.C. interpret the third kingdom as Greece and the final kingdom as Rome. In this case, the “little horn” in Daniel 7 is a Roman emperor (Nero or Domitian are the usual suspects). This view is associated with scholars who accept the possibility Daniel is prophecy rather than a literary construction after the event (vaticina ex eventu). An exception to this is Robert Gurney, who lists the kingdoms as Babylon, Media, Medo-Persia and Greece, but accepts a sixth century date for Daniel (“The Four Kingdoms of Daniel 2 and 7” Themelios 2 (1977): 39-45).
The view that Rome is the fourth empire is often combined with a futurist, premillennial interpretation of Daniel. The fourth kingdom is not just historical Rome, but a future evil empire led by the ultimate enemy of God, the AntiChrist. The weakness of the feet and ankles of the statue is taken as a prophecy of the kingdom of man which will be destroyed by the return of Jesus as the Messiah and the coming of his kingdom.
I have several observations about these two views of the kingdoms in Daniel 2. First, it is entirely possible to maintain a high view of Scripture and hold either position. Sometimes conservatives will vilify the Greek view as making Daniel out to be a liar. This is not the case, since the genre of apocalyptic often veils recent history as prophecy (See the Animal Apocalypse, for example). Second, the interpretation of the fourth kingdom as Rome is not necessarily driven solely by a commitment to inerrancy. Although not everyone would agree, there are good reasons to see the second empire as Medo-Persian and the third as Greece. A third problem I will return to later is the use of Daniel in the book of Revelation. By A.D. 90, the final kingdom destroyed by the coming Messiah is Rome.
What difference do theological assumptions make with respect to these two positions? Does a faith commitment to inspiration or inerrancy demand an early date for the book of Daniel? Does the theological emphases of the chapter change if the vision describes God’s judgment on Antiochus IV Epiphanes, on the Roman Empire, or on a (still) future ultimately-evil empire?
The two positions do not change much theologically. Even if the book was written later describing things that have happened up to the point it was being written, the text is still used in revelation, the text is still beneficial to understanding the sovereignty of God, and the book was decided on as canonical for a specific reason. Whether the book was written at a later date or an earlier date, the Lord is still guiding and weaving history. The time Daniel was written does not change whether we can use it for the benefit of the Kingdom or not.
I hold the view of an earlier date with the understanding that the fourth empire is Rome. If someone told me I was dead wrong then I would not blink an eye. The specific things that are beneficial and applicable to pull from Daniel are not apocalyptic/prophetic at all. The things we can pull from Daniel are things like how God is sovereign, how we should be faithful even through suffering, or how to live devoutly in a culture that is foreign to our own. We see examples of these things all throughout the book of Daniel. The fiery furnace with Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego is a clear example of faithfulness in the face of persecution (Daniel 3). God clearly shows his sovereignty in the humbling of Nebuchadnezzar in Daniel 4. Ultimately, my theology of Daniel does not flip on its head if the book was written at a different date. The book stands as a testament to a way of life not a prediction of the future. As Christians, we should not be worried about what is to come. We need to focus on what is in front of us and how we can best glorify God. Trusting Him, having faith in Him, and learning how to live that faith out are all shown in Daniel and are all applicable to life today as a Christian.
I wouldn’t not say that the theological principals would change between the two positions. I think it is clear what it is saying regardless of who it’s talking about or what the date of Daniel’s authorship is. Although, I do think it is important to still stand by that God’s word is inerrant and inspired and I think the speculation of a different date is all that it is. If there is not any reason to prove otherwise and we read what it says in God’s word and take it for what it says. I am not saying always literally interpreting scripture but, why would this book claim to be talking about one thing but then ultimately is talking about another? I do think it is valuable to continue to dig deeper into the scriptures on both a historical end and textual end to get a better grasp of the text, but sometimes it seems as though people are trying too hard. But in the end, either position could be argued as an option, and both parties or positions can hold a high view of scripture.
Daniel was confident in His Father that he will tell him what the vision means and Daniel told Nebuchadnezzar that he is able to interpret the dreams because God tells him. Daniel had faith in God and was dependent on him and knew God had put him there for a reason. Because God told him what the vision is, Daniel was able to tell the king about it. It is interesting that a stone was able to destroy the statue that was made of metal because that is hard to break, especially turning it into dust that falls to the ground. “Then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver, and the gold, all together were broken into pieces, and became like the chaff of the summer threshing floors; and the wind carried them away, so that not a trace of them could be found” (Daniel 2:35). This shows how awesome God is and that He can do anything. It makes me think of that in the end, God always wins. The uncut rock supposedly resembles the kingdom of God and that it will destroy evil. “But the stone that struck the image became a great mountain and filled the whole earth” (Daniel 2:35). This makes me think of the coming of the Messiah and that He is bringing us to the Kingdom of God. His Kingdom will rise up over all the other kingdoms in the end and be there for eternity.
I don’t think that the two theological principles would change. Those who hold a faith commitment to inspiration might argue for an early date for the book of Daniel, as this would be with the traditional belief that Daniel himself wrote the book during the Babylonian exile. However, I think this is not a necessary faith commitment. Reading through Daniel 2, we see different dreams and visions, each accompanied by its proper interpretation by Daniel. There are unmistakable similarities between the visions or dreams in chapters two and seven. Looking at King Nebuchadnezzar’s dream in chapter two, we can see where God speaks through his dream to get his attention regarding his rule as king. For Nebuchadnezzar, the vision is given in a personal form, a statue. The statue is made of several different materials, which we understand later signify different kingdoms. Each piece of the statue in his dream represents a kingdom. God gave Nebuchadnezzar a vision of what would happen in the future and who would take over the earth after the Babylonian empire.
This passage is interesting to me because it shows God’s control over a kingdom/empire that was not Israel or the Hebrew nation. It’s easy to see God’s hand on a people that He has specifically said He would bless and guide, and equally so His hand of condemnation or wrath on a people He has said He would curse. But here it is evident through the dream and through the subsequent prosperity of the empires foretold (as I hold to the traditional Roman view) that God is allowing all of it to happen. Obviously, nothing is outside God’s control, but this to me feels as though He is intentionally sort of pseudo-blessing the Babylonian, Persian, Greek, and Roman Empires, maybe to emphasize turning His face away from Israel after they apostatized. And yet, still, He allows a remnant of faithful Israelites, which makes sense, because there’s no point in allowing the pagan empires to prosper as a lesson if there is nobody there to learn it, and if there are no faithful prophets, nobody will hear the message. I think that’s pretty neat.
This passage is very fascinating to me going over Nebuchadnezzar’s dream and unavailing the four metals that he sees. The first is a Aramaic wood which refers to something dreadful, this is very interesting to me for him to vision something that is dreadful and not something that is good and not dreadful. In his vision, he saw a statue made of gold, bronze, iron, and silver. I find it interesting that the statue was later destroyed by a stone “not cut by human hands.” Daniel interprets the head from the statue referring to Nebuchadnezzar and the Babylon Empire. Something that ready stood out to me during the reading was the four kingdom’s that Nebuchadnezzar visioned. The head made of gold represents Nebuchadnezzar, which represents Babylon. The next kingdom is Seleucides and that is from the “little horn”. The third kingdom is Greece and the last one is Rome, “The fourth kingdom is not just historical Rome, but a future evil empire led by the ultimate enemy of God, the AntiChrist (Long, 2020).” Rome is one of those places on earth that always has a bad reputation for being Anti-Christ and this is true because of the information that come along with it.
Nebuchadnezzar’s dream and its interpretation has a lot of principles and concepts found within, such as the sovereignty of God and God’s future. A principle within this passage that is not often focused on is the fragility of empires on earth. Consider Babylon. They were a great and powerful empire who had a lot of pride in the strength of their empire. Later in the book of Daniel, Nebuchadnezzar serves as a very good example of what they thought of their empire (Daniel 4:30). They most likely thought their empire would never end. Daniel’s interpretation of Nebuchadnezzar’s dream tells a much different reality. Daniel tells Nebuchadnezzar that Babylon will be replaced by a much less powerful empire (Daniel 2:38-39). This observation was made concerning the rest of the vision and interpretation “If the bronze kingdom is less valuable than the previous two, the “iron” kingdom is even more so” (Longman III, 2020, p. 69). All of these different kingdoms had power and influence but were eventually replaced by something else. The fact that these powerful empires were replaced by “inferior” empires should tell us a good deal concerning world empires and powers. This is the principle that world powers do not last. Compare these world empires, that do not last, to God’s kingdom which will last forever (Luke 1:33). This principle should have implications for us today. The question we should ask ourselves when reading passages such as these is, if we know that all empires, powers, and governments on earth will end, why do we place so much faith in them. Rather, we should never place our faith in world powers but place our faith in an everlasting God.